“Do people want to know that Bernard used to eat his dinner in the bath?”
Interview with with Mark Radcliffe
On Peter Hook’s website is a long interview (downloadable) with Mark Radcliffe:
Here with the specially recorded “Unheard Pleasures” podcast between Mark and Hooky in a fuller and in depth view of Peter’s second book.
The podcast previously formed the basis for the limited edition CD which was distributed via HMV Stores to accompany the publication of “Unknown Pleasures – Inside Joy Division”.
- click to here to listen to the interview: Peter Hook :: Unknown Pleasures Inside Joy Division Peter Hook Mark Radcliffe Book Podcast Oct 2012.
From the BBC website
Joy Division were such an important band, but this book is about four mates having a laugh on the road and doing what lads do. Do you think the subsequent mythology has built the band up to be something they were not?
Hook gave his blessing to the film Control, about Ian Curtis’s life
“While I was in New Order we completely ignored anything to do with Joy Division. The myth was good: ‘They all think we’re dead arty and intelligent and intellectual.’
“I’m happy to buy into the myth, so when I came to writing the book I was wary about breaking it. Do people want to know that Ian used to urinate in ashtrays? Do people want to know that Bernard used to eat his dinner in the bath?”
- read more here: BBC News – Peter Hook’s Joy Division regrets.
The demystification process starts with Hook’s portrayal of himself as a laddish delinquent who, thunderstruck by punk rock, spontaneously decides to form a band with Salford school friend Bernard Sumner, and only develops his distinctively high, melodic bass-playing style to counteract the shortcomings of a cheap amp. Even as he lays bare Curtis’s juvenile side, Hook seems somewhat in awe of the singer: the charismatic highbrow with the arty Belgian girlfriend and the love of Ballard and Burroughs.
There’s a lovely image of Curtis in the studio, assembling his brutal, beautiful lyrics by rummaging through a carrier bag full of scraps of paper. Hook and Sumner are cast as comic relief, constantly overruled by belligerent producer Martin Hannett (“a lunatic wizard”) and forbidden from speaking in interviews by manager Rob Gretton. “He didn’t do it to create a mystique around the band but because he thought we were a couple of cretins.”